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]]> By: Seth http://www.svendtofte.com/stylesheets/reflections-on-max-width/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Seth Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:38:28 +0000 http://www.svendtofte.com/?p=4#comment-112 I think to swear off browser specific hacks as 'arrogance' is in a way the same exact rigidness the author is deploring / trying to get away from. For me, as a designer, it's not about accepting 'blemishes' or not accepting blemishes. It's simply a matter of doing what I want to do. If what I want to do can't be done it can't be done, where it gets frustrating is when it can be done elegantly in any of our targeted browsers except IE6. At this point, simply constraining an entire project, and the majority of users out of a feature or experiential aspect of the site just because IE6 is a weak browser is in my mind more 'just stupid' then feeding IE6 a special little cookie so it will play nice and doing it the right way for everyone else. Yes, an entire site littered with browser specific hacks would be an ugly unfortunate thing. But that's an extreme. As developers as well as designers we need to be flexible. Swearing off hacks altogether is not being flexible. If an entire project can come together exactly as the designers want it to, all with one or two concessions for IE6 (the currently problem vestige of a previous age), then as an architect I say so be it. The web and the world isn't made up of polar extremes. It's gray area. There are times where hacks for IE6 or Safari are the best compromises of implementation and intention. Don't hate the player dog. Hate the game. Seth I think to swear off browser specific hacks as ‘arrogance’ is in a way the same exact rigidness the author is deploring / trying to get away from.

For me, as a designer, it’s not about accepting ‘blemishes’ or not accepting blemishes. It’s simply a matter of doing what I want to do. If what I want to do can’t be done it can’t be done, where it gets frustrating is when it can be done elegantly in any of our targeted browsers except IE6. At this point, simply constraining an entire project, and the majority of users out of a feature or experiential aspect of the site just because IE6 is a weak browser is in my mind more ‘just stupid’ then feeding IE6 a special little cookie so it will play nice and doing it the right way for everyone else.

Yes, an entire site littered with browser specific hacks would be an ugly unfortunate thing. But that’s an extreme. As developers as well as designers we need to be flexible. Swearing off hacks altogether is not being flexible. If an entire project can come together exactly as the designers want it to, all with one or two concessions for IE6 (the currently problem vestige of a previous age), then as an architect I say so be it.

The web and the world isn’t made up of polar extremes. It’s gray area. There are times where hacks for IE6 or Safari are the best compromises of implementation and intention.

Don’t hate the player dog. Hate the game.

Seth

]]> By: HotPotatoe http://www.svendtofte.com/stylesheets/reflections-on-max-width/comment-page-1/#comment-89 HotPotatoe Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:57:44 +0000 http://www.svendtofte.com/?p=4#comment-89 Hi there, nice article and clear explanation. I have a question fron which I haven't seen any answer yet. I have a website done in flash 100%. I want this website to be inside a layer and I want this layer to grow free and expand to fill the user's browser till certain point, this is: A máximun width of 1600px and a máximun heigth of 1000px. (I can live without fixing the height if necessary) The flash movie inside the div has it's size set to 100% width and heigth. If you apply this hack, or the JELLO MOLD hack, or at least every hack I have found on the Web, the content of the layer (the swf movie) wont be displayed in IE!! It just dissappear!! It seems like because of it's relative width and height (100%) it doesn't have a solid presence to make it's container expand... Try it yourself, you will see what I mean. Can anybody bring me some help about this topic? Hi there, nice article and clear explanation.
I have a question fron which I haven’t seen any answer yet.
I have a website done in flash 100%.
I want this website to be inside a layer and I want this layer to grow free and expand to fill the user’s browser till certain point, this is: A máximun width of 1600px and a máximun heigth of 1000px. (I can live without fixing the height if necessary) The flash movie inside the div has it’s size set to 100% width and heigth. If you apply this hack, or the JELLO MOLD hack, or at least every hack I have found on the Web, the content of the layer (the swf movie) wont be displayed in IE!! It just dissappear!!
It seems like because of it’s relative width and height (100%) it doesn’t have a solid presence to make it’s container expand…
Try it yourself, you will see what I mean.
Can anybody bring me some help about this topic?

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